Pen-y-Ffordd Community Council
Reports and resolutions of the meetings held on
Wednesday the 26th October 2011
G N I Jones
Clerk and Financial Officer
to the Council
Pen-y-Ffordd Community Council
The minutes of the proceedings of a special meeting of the Pen-y-Ffordd Community Council held in The War Memorial Institute on Wednesday the 26th October 2011
PRESENT
Cllr D Williams, Chairman of the Council (in the chair)
Cllr T W Jones OBE, Vice Chairman
Cllrs J W Bell, C Bithell, Mrs E M Davies, Mrs C Hinds, Mrs M D Jones, Mrs L Vidamour
APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Were received from Cllrs S E Davies, Mrs J Hopwood
IN ATTENDANCE
G N I Jones, Clerk to the Council
APPLICATIONS FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE
The clerk advised that the budget allocation is an amount of £3,200.00.
The list of applications numbered twenty-eight in total; there were three national organisations, Shelter Cymru, N S P C C and Age Concern North East Wales.
Three other organisations were Pontblyddyn Cricket Club, Flintshire Diabetes Voluntary Group and Nightingale House Hospice.
Members agreed to discard the national organisations, also the Flintshire Diabetes Voluntary Group. (Excepting Nightingale Hospice.)
With regards to Pontblyddyn Cricket Club quite a number of young people receive coaching at the club, they also play for the junior teams, and coaches from the Cricket Club coach in the three schools in the villages: it was agreed to include this application. ( Our clerk is also a member )
Members considered to more favourably consider applications from organisations with a youthful flavour. ( excepting those certain Penyffordd Cllrs were members of )
The youthful flavour was put forward by Cllr Tom Jones. No one put forward the position that it is the older social groups who are shrinking out of existence. No one challenged Cllr Tom Jones who used this as a way of getting at the Wine Circle.
The youthful flavour was put forward by Cllr Tom Jones. No one put forward the position that it is the older social groups who are shrinking out of existence. No one challenged Cllr Tom Jones who used this as a way of getting at the Wine Circle.
2. First Pen-y-ffordd Brownies - £200.00
3. Pen-y-ffordd Scout Group - £150.00
4. Pen-y-ffordd Beavers £150.00
5. Pen-y-ffordd Cub Pack - £150.00
6 Pen-y-ffordd Flower Club - £125.00
7. Pen-y-ffordd Youth Club - £200.00
8. War Memorial Bonfire Appeal - £200.00
9. Pen-y-ffordd Tennis Club - £200.00
10. Pen-y-ffordd Play Group - £200.00
11. Emanuel Church - £125.00
12 Pen-y-ffordd Wine Society - £25.00
Note: The Vice Chairman, Cllr T W Jones, and Cllr C Bithell wished it to be recorded in the minutes that they had voted for this organisation to be excluded.
13. Red Lion Cricket Club - £125.00
14. Pen-y-ffordd Senior Football Club - £125.00
15. St John's the Baptist Church Pentrobin - £125.00
16. Trinity Chapel - £125.00
17. Pen-y-ffordd Junior Football Club - £200.00
18. Pen-y-ffordd and Penymynydd Toddlers Group - £200.00
19. Pen-y-ffordd Area Community Association - £200.00
20. Red Lion Strollers FC - £125.00
21. Pontblyddyn Cricket Club - £125.00
22. Nightingale House Hospice - £100.00.
End of minutes
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Why are they shabby? Because of the vindictiveness shown to Penyffordd Wine Circle which has been a social element of Penyffordd for over 20 years. It is not a drinking club. If drink was a factor then many of those on the list should have been excluded.
Cllr David Williams as Chairman should have challenged Cllr Jones and Bithell on why they wanted Penyffordd Wine Circle excluded.
Nigel as clerk should have also raised the unfairness of this decision.
Nigel as Village Clerk should hold a neutral position and advise councillors of unfairness. Ask them to explain themselves.
Why should councillors vote for their own groups? ie. Cllr David Williams and the Red Lion Strollers.
The whole system is corrupt. Cllrs Tom Jones and Colin Bithell show themselves to have no idea of fairness. They have used their positions to stick the boot in.
With such prejudice should they be allowed to be councillors. Klaus has nothing on these two nasty pieces of work.
I've asked Nigel what comments were made when Cllrs Jones and Bithell advised for Penyffordd Wine Circle removal from the grant list.
No councillor made any comment. Why were their actions not challenged?
Where was the normal voluble Cllr Edwina Davies a former Wine Circle member on this. - SILENT - Shame on you Edwina. The village needs better than you as a councillor !
All scared of an 80 year old man, quite pathetic !
Perhaps Tom Jones' Independents should be renamed the Penyffordd Mafia.
They have all the morality of such organisations.
End of minutes
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Why are they shabby? Because of the vindictiveness shown to Penyffordd Wine Circle which has been a social element of Penyffordd for over 20 years. It is not a drinking club. If drink was a factor then many of those on the list should have been excluded.
Cllr David Williams as Chairman should have challenged Cllr Jones and Bithell on why they wanted Penyffordd Wine Circle excluded.
Nigel as clerk should have also raised the unfairness of this decision.
Nigel as Village Clerk should hold a neutral position and advise councillors of unfairness. Ask them to explain themselves.
Why should councillors vote for their own groups? ie. Cllr David Williams and the Red Lion Strollers.
The whole system is corrupt. Cllrs Tom Jones and Colin Bithell show themselves to have no idea of fairness. They have used their positions to stick the boot in.
With such prejudice should they be allowed to be councillors. Klaus has nothing on these two nasty pieces of work.
I've asked Nigel what comments were made when Cllrs Jones and Bithell advised for Penyffordd Wine Circle removal from the grant list.
No councillor made any comment. Why were their actions not challenged?
Where was the normal voluble Cllr Edwina Davies a former Wine Circle member on this. - SILENT - Shame on you Edwina. The village needs better than you as a councillor !
All scared of an 80 year old man, quite pathetic !
Perhaps Tom Jones' Independents should be renamed the Penyffordd Mafia.
They have all the morality of such organisations.
It should be added that Cllrs Colin Bithel and Tom Jones are so fine upstanding moral representatives of our village that they do not have the bottle to give their reasons for Penyffordd Wine Circle being removed from the grant list. I think the correct term is " cowards" !
ReplyDeleteThis totally smacks of unfairness. Why give £200 to the Brownies and only £150 to the Scouts. Why give to Nightingale House Hospice (a very worth while cause) but none to Age concern. What gives these people the right to vote like this. All have their own personal reasons and biases for their own "favourites!". This is an abuse of "power". The Wine Society has been established in the village for over 25 years, we have a majority membership of local people who come together once a month for a social gathering and friendship. Most members are professional people. Last month we had the head gardener of Erddig hold a presentation of glass houses and conservatories. The funds received from any grants are used for such items as the hire of the War Memorial Hall, therefore recycling funds back into the village!! The Chairman certainly should have questioned and minuted the reasons behind ALL the payments therefore allowing local people to make their judgements of these councillors.
ReplyDeleteWhy should anyone else pay for people to sit around and drink wine?
ReplyDeleteAgreed. The minutes speak for themselves. Tom and his buddies really have it all sown up!
ReplyDelete@ Anonymous (a name would be useful), one could also voice the question as to why The Flower Club should be paid to sit around butchering flowers or The Pen-y-ffordd Seniors Football Club be paid to kick a football around, the point here is that the grant finances allow small organisations to continue. Too much of village life is being lost. These groups continue the trend of social events in a village. The Wine Society's grant money goes straight to The War Memorial Institute to fund the cost of holding meetings there, they aren't running a charity.
ReplyDeleteBut why need grant money? If you want to drink wine in a social group that isn't accommodated by a house or pub, you should pay for the privilege. Using public money to fund alcohol drinking is a dodgy area. It'd be like a group getting together and applying for money to fund going into the Red Lion and having a pint or so.
ReplyDeleteYou raise a very good point. It should be said that very little wine is consumed at meetings. The group title misleading. We are a food and wine group really. Your question should also be addressed to all those groups that got funding that use a licensed premises as a base. For instance The Red Lion. Whilst not criticizing the Red Lion management for good business practice. The groups that use the Red Lion are no different to us.
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line being Cllrs Tom Jones and Bithell were out to have a go at me and the rest of the councillors let them.
A sick council that needs to go.